How can you avoid selling your house!? Burley skewers Paul Scully on social care cap

Kay Burley grills Paul Scully over the social care cap

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The Sky News host put the permanent Small Business Under-Secretary on the spot as she confronted him on the Government’s controversial plans to reform the social care system. Boris Johnson has been facing intense pressure from MPs over the potential costs less well-off pensioners could be left grappling with under the new scheme. Kay Burley said: “The PM promised no one would have to sell their homes to pay for their care. Is that still the case?”

Mr Scully said: “Well, we’ve been consistent all the way through this. You won’t to have spend any more money, the cap is there over £86,000 and that is indeed the case.

“That’s five times more generous than the existing scheme at the moment.”

Ms Burley asked again: “So you won’t have to sell your house? The Prime Minister said you won’t have to sell your house.”

The London Minister said: “You won’t have to pay any more money above the cap for the personal care that you get.”

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The Sky News host renewed her question: “But he did make a big play about not having to sell your house. Is that going to be the case or not?”

Mr Scully conceded: “Depends on the different circumstances. What I’m saying is there is, people want to know the detail of the policy.

“Clearly, they want to know exactly what’s going to happen. If you hit the cap, you will not have to pay any more money for your personal care.

“I think that’s a fair, balanced approach for taxpayers and for people that are having to pay for a very expensive form of care.”


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Ms Burley however persisted in challenging Mr Scully: “Yeah, but the headline was the PM promised as part of the last election that no one would just have to sell their homes to pay for their care.

“The detail is you either have to sell your house or you don’t. Why say it? Why would he say it?”

Mr Scully said: “What we’re trying to do is find a cross-party consensus, an approach that actually tackles an issue that’s been around for a decade.”

The Sky Host hit back: “If your house is worth under £80,000, any Government contribution won’t count towards the cap. So, if you’re in care for a long time, how can you avoid selling your house?”


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Mr Scully said: “The Government contributions are essentially what you’re having to pay out of your own pocket towards that cap.

“I think it’s right, that is concentrating on what you personally have to pay for personal care.”

Health Secretary Sajid Javid said that “everyone will be better off” under the social care reforms.

The Government announced earlier in the autumn that an £86,000 cap on care costs would be put in place from October 2023.

It also said that people with assets up to £20,000 will not have to contribute anything to their care (up from £14,250), while those with assets to £100,000 will be eligible to receive some local authority support (up from £23,250).

But in a policy paper released on Wednesday, the Government said that for people who receive financial support for part of their care from their local authority, only the share they contribute themselves will go towards the £86,000 cap.

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